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CHINA IMPOSES MORE LIQUIDITY RESTRAINTS, FABER WARNS OF MARKET CRASH

3 May 2010 by Cullen Roche 9 Comments

I’ve maintained for quite some time that the biggest risks to the U.S. equity markets were not domestic.  Not even close.  The biggest risks to the U.S. equity markets come from abroad.  Clearly, the problems in Greece are taking all the headlines today, but the biggest news of the day (in my opinion) is the continuing tightening measures that were announced in China where the reserve ratio was raised for the third time this year.  As I’ve said before, the huge stimulus response in China was the grossest misuse of public funds during the entirety of bailout fever.  It’s slowly coming back to haunt them as malinvestment in the property market has sparked fears of a bubble and the economy now appears to be overheating.

Marc Faber told Bloomberg TV overnight that the Chinese equity market is now at risk of a crash:

“The signals are all there, the symptoms of a major bubble are all there.  The Chinese economy is going to slow down regardless. It is more likely that we will even have a crash sometime in the next nine to 12 months.”

HSBC is a bit more sanguine on the situation:

“We think most onshore investors are comparing the equity market this year with what’s happening in 2004-2005.  China equity market fell from 3000 to 1500 after the internet bubble and just start to recover which is similar to 09 recovery rally as well.  China also started to raise RRR and later IR during that period, PBOC is obviously doing the same thing now.   We see the liquidity situation in the mkt will keep weighing on markets.”

Like most central banks throughout history China is responding in classic scientific method – AFTER The evidence is in.  Of course, we’ve seen this happen time and time again here in the states and the Chinese appear to be replaying this episode for themselves.  Just as they were late to the party in tightening and cutting during the last cycle they are once again behind the curve.

Only this time, the stakes are arguably much larger as a serious decline in the Chinese economy would almost certainly trigger a worldwide double dip (or should we call it a new recession?).  Shanghai and Shenzhen are closed today for holiday, however, Hong Kong equities are trading 1.5% lower as I type (12:30 AM EST).  Chinese equities are off 12% year to date and just as we saw at the 2007 highs and the 2008 lows, U.S. equities are largely ignoring the leading indicator that is China….

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  • LVG

    When China started trading down in 2007 everyone said the markets weren’t interconnected. Then when the Chinese market rebounded all the bulls said it was the greatest leading indicator ever and a clear sign that the economy was back. Now no one is talking about it. You’re the only site I have seen that has been consistently talking about the risks in China. How can americans constantly live in this bubble while ignoring everything that goes on outside their own borders?

  • Everything tends towards the mean . China is no exception.You can’t expect the country to sustain it incredible growth rate for another 30 years .

  • James

    TPC do you remember when China was down like 20%+ from its high and it was going down like 4% a day sometimes? It was last year sometime and everyone said this is the big one. Idk. I wouldn’t buy here, but I am reluctant to agree with Marc Faber. I like him and all but sometimes he utilizes hyperbole a bit too much. But we will see. Don’t really care where it goes as long as it isn’t choppy and not tradeable.

    • Michael

      I love choppy, it’s very trade able if you know what you are doing. Flat or steady up/down is more annoying to me. Volatility is where I make a killing.

  • LZ

    I am not sure if anyone would be surprised if this so called global contagion will end up with more money printing and more debt monetization. In fact you post a video a few weeks ago of a guy from IMF calling higher target inflation a solution for Greece? The madness will not end until people use paper money exclusively in bathroom.

  • billw

    TPC,

    Remember that is what I have said previously, this rally has too many plates in the air, any one of which when it falls will take us with it. Europe, UK, China, Japan, PIIGS, second go around in housing,commercial real estate resets, employment, government intervention killing jobs,excessive money printing etc. It really is only a matter of which catastrophe hits first. There is no one good enough to micromanage this economy through all of this without our encountering the next major leg down. That is not saying that we could not have done a better job of getting rid of the deadwood in the first go round.

    • Michael

      So very true on all accounts. Let’s not forget peak production in oil (extraction, not total in ground reserves being depleted) is rapidly declining. It’s actually dropping faster then reported and faster then new rigs or new fields can be brought online. Even ones coming online are not enough to counter the rapidly decline in extraction of the black gold.

      Our great grand kids will have access to oil, but at what price?

      There, one more plate for you :)

  • xigdh

    not really will happen in this year!