COPPER WEAKNESS IS A WARNING SIGN
Tom McClellan – McClellan Market Report
Back in January 2011, I pointed out that copper prices had in recent years started to track very closely with whatever the stock market was doing. But the key point about that relationship then was that when disagreements appear, it is usually copper that knows what the real story is.
That relationship continues to work to this day, with the two price plots mostly doing the same things, but with divergences usually working out the way that copper says that they should. By that I mean that if the SP500 makes a higher high but copper makes a lower high, that is a bearish divergence with bearish implications for both of them.
It is worth noting that there was a big “oops!” back in July 2011, when copper prices made a higher high as the SP500 made a lower high. In that instance, it turned out that the stock market was right, but copper worked extra hard in the weeks that followed to make up for lost time and to plunge to a lower value. Nothing works all the time.
The higher high for the SP500 going into the end of the year has not yet been matched by a higher high in spot copper prices, and that is a troubling development. But the problem with converting this observation into an actionable and tradable signal is that we never know exactly when such a divergence is actually going to start to matter. Sometimes it happens after just a few days of divergent behavior. Other times, the divergence persists over several weeks before it finally matters.
One other worry is a phenomenon I just shared with readers of our Daily Edition, which is the realization that a lot of currencies seem to undergo reversals around New Year’s Day. The end of 2011 arrives with commercial currency futures traders holding a huge net short position against the dollar. Commercial euro futures traders have the biggest net long position in the euro in the entire 12 year history of the reporting of euro futures positions in the Commitment of Traders (COT) Report. Commercial traders are also long the Swiss franc in a big way. Analysis of COT data is something that is featured every Friday in ourDaily Edition.

So what this all means is that we have a situation where an upward move for the euro (downward for the dollar) is likely because of what the COT data say, and because of the year end reversal tendency. A big drop in the dollar would be bullish for copper prices, because a cheaper dollar would mean that you would need more dollars to buy a pound of copper. So a potential big currency reversal could push copper prices upward, removing this current divergence between copper prices and the SP500. Accordingly, this relationship will bear watching closely as we move into 2012.




Happy new year!
With so much shortsighted commentary just as this (free article – read the comments as the readers are a lot more mature, educated, and responsible than the frivolous writer), http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424052748703805304577124671128391162.html?mod=BOL_hpp_dc
It is time to face R-E-A-L-I-T-Y http://advisorperspectives.com/index.php
Mauldin presents an excellent analysis of the European situation by Rhodes and Stelter, iMHO, a must read to set your bearings straight after all the garbage hitting the airwaves since the ECB started lending to banks at 1% fr 3 years with almost no strings attached.
Collateral Damage
What Next? Where Next?
What to Expect and How to Prepare
David Rhodes and Daniel Stelter
http://advisorperspectives.com/commentaries/millenium_123111.php
January 2012
I should add that it would be no surprise if the market actually follows the outline presented in the first article.
So if I understand your points correctly, you are saying that:
(1) I am frivolous, irresponsible, uneducated, and immature, and that,
(2) the problem with this article is that it is not a different article written by a different author at a different time about a different topic.
Have I correctly restated what you were trying to convey?
Sorry, my post is off-topic. My comments were about the Barron’s free article for which I give the link. I thought that was clear from the context.
If EUR falls further, the /DX is at a critical level. As well, 1.28 for EUR$$ is critical as it would cause severe technical damage for copper.
The thing is that we are at a level which seriously disturbs the status quo. My guess is that we trade in a tighter range from here.
Mr McClellan, not “bad” analysis, but you’re looking at the wrong stock market.
Best compare copper with the Shanghai market (and particularly the Chinese real estate developer stocks) and you will identify a much better cause-and-effect relationship for explaining copper price weakness and what it truly means.
“”Copper weakness is a warning sign”". Amen. Especially now China seems to implode.
Anyone still has trading accounts, donno wether to close my IB account?!
Trying to ride this potential bear market might not be clever.
copper price doesn’t predict anything, it’s just a reflection of what’s happening right now