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GREECE IS ONLY A SYMPTOM

13 February 2010 by Cullen Roche 3 Comments

From Comstock Partners:

The Greek fiscal crisis is just a symptom of world-wide credit problems that was signaled by the emergence of subprime loan disclosures as early as August 2006.  The importance of subprime lending was not recognized until much later, but nevertheless evolved into a continuing series of economic and financial crises that continue until this day.  The problem has now extended to sovereign debt, and, as usual, the weakest links are exposed first (Dubai and Greece) only to spread to stronger entities later.  Not far behind are Portugal and Spain, then perhaps Italy and Britain.  It’s not just a localized minor problem to be solved by some sleight-of-hand by the EU, but a debt crisis that could envelop the globe.

In addition to excessive fiscal deficits by some of its weaker members, the EU has some special problems for which there are no good options.  The Greek government can either undertake severe fiscal austerity measures, default, be bailed out by the EU or leave the organization entirely.  Each of these has unwanted consequences. The result of enough fiscal austerity to relieve the debt pressures is a severe recession or depression.  An independent nation generally offsets this with an easy monetary policy and devaluation of the currency, something that Greece cannot do as an EU member since they do not run their own monetary policy and share a common currency.  Default would cause havoc in the EU banking system that holds most of Greece’s debt. An EU bailout would only push off the crisis since other weak members would demand the same deal.  While the Greek economy is relatively small and the Portuguese economy slightly smaller, bailing out an economy the size of Spain’s would be an enormous or even impossible project.  And leaving the EU would probably bring down the organization.

Furthermore Greece’s debt burden is only slightly more onerous than those of an alarming number of other nations including Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Iceland, Britain, Japan and, yes, even the U.S.  Globally, assets soared in price during the boom, supported by vast increases in debt.  Now the assets are severely diminished while the debts remain and there is insufficient income to pay them off.

The U.S. is far from immune.  Administration budget projections of the deficit indicate that the gross Federal debt held by the public will exceed 100% of the GDP within two years while the deficit will amount to 10% of the GDP.  The CBO estimates enormous deficits for the next ten years, and it doesn’t end there.  And this is probably a best-case scenario that overestimates future economic growth, doesn’t include GSE debt and doesn’t account for the huge fiscal problems of the 50 states.

In addition the prospect of big deficits as far as the eye can see raises fears of default or currency depreciation leading to a rise in interest rates and a dampening of growth.  So far interest rates have been held down by Fed purchases of Treasury bonds and mortgage-backed securities (MBS), purchases by China and a rush to safety.  However, Treasury Bond purchases amounting to $300 billion ended on October 31st while the program to buy $1.25 trillion of MBS comes to an end on March 31st.  At the same time, China, while not actively selling U.S. Treasuries have sharply reduced their purchases and will probably continue doing so.

It therefore seems to us that investors are making a big mistake if they assume that Greece is too small and unimportant to matter and that the rest of the developed world is somehow isolated from the turmoil.  Greece is to sovereign debt what subprime was to private debt.  It’s the possible start of a vast tsunami that threatens to overwhelm the global economic and financial system.  Investors should take heed.

Source: Comstock

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  • Edna R. Rider

    Seems unlikely to “overwhelm the global economic and financial system” any time soon. I wouldn’t suggest it is a safe environment to go “all in” but I would be a little skeptical about things falling apart suddenly. The governments of the world learned how to contain financial crises. In addition to bailing out the bondholders of the banks that’s the primary “good” that came of the crisis of 08/early 09. So governments will paper over this debt problem for years before it will finally creep up and essentially freeze the system due to the inability to fund deficits.

  • There is a big difference between a liquidity problem and a solvency problem. When a company or a country has enough assets to cover its liabilities but they have a problem raising the money they need to pay off the loan they have a liquidity problem. But when an entity has more debt than it can serve than it has a solvency problem and in that case more debt and loans will only dig it into a bigger hole. Greece has a liquidity problem since it has much more debt than the economy can serve. Germany and the Euro are perhaps will to give them loan in attractive interest rates but unless they are willing to consistently transfer money from the core of Europe to the weak countries those countries are doomed.
    If German politicians think they can convince there citizens to fund Greece’s recklessness throw transfer payments all I have to say to them is GOOD LUCK!
    It will cause a Euro Collapse

  • Stan

    It’s funny watching the rest of the EU criticize Greece especially Germans, Dutch and Swedes like all their books are clean and Greece is the naughty one. For starters Global Financial Crisis means just that, Global, G does not stand for Greece. The Nordics and Northern Europeans are always first to come up with one line answers and try put down the so called PIIGS.

    First of all, before screaming “WE’RE NOT BAILING YOU OUT GREECE”, Greece didn’t ask for a bailout – repeat – Greece DID NOT ask for a bailout. So don’t get ahead.

    Anyway, sounds like some of the criticism at Greece is hypocritical:
    “Greece is far from the EUs only Joker”
    http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/wealthofnations/archive/2010/02/19/greece-is-far-from-the-eu-s-only-joker.aspx

    Also, Greece spends more % per GDP on defense than any other country in Europe – that’s the problem with having trouble-makers as neighbors.