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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also the whole &quot;Mark-to-Market&quot; bs, why would anyone want to deal in reality when fiction is so much more fun?!  Why make people who made bad decisions suffer now, when they can not suffer or learn from this later?  Silly people.  Learning is for losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also the whole &#8220;Mark-to-Market&#8221; bs, why would anyone want to deal in reality when fiction is so much more fun?!  Why make people who made bad decisions suffer now, when they can not suffer or learn from this later?  Silly people.  Learning is for losers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s &quot;Angry MBA&quot; because he wasted those years and money getting an MBA.  An MBA is like a cheap pair of shoes at the store.  Anyone can get them with just a little money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s &#8220;Angry MBA&#8221; because he wasted those years and money getting an MBA.  An MBA is like a cheap pair of shoes at the store.  Anyone can get them with just a little money.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry MBA</title>
		<link>http://pragcap.com/meredith-whitney-prepare-for-a-dramatic-decline-in-housing/comment-page-1#comment-21833</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry MBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you really think the banks are going to allow themselves to “take the hit”?&lt;/i&gt;

When borrowers can&#039;t or won&#039;t pay them, then they have no choice but to take a hit.  They have some choices about the timing and accounting of the recognition of the hit, but the hit is going to be taken, regardless.  

&lt;i&gt;Mark-to-Market accounting is necessary to relieve the system.&lt;/i&gt;

No, it really isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you really think the banks are going to allow themselves to “take the hit”?</i></p>
<p>When borrowers can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t pay them, then they have no choice but to take a hit.  They have some choices about the timing and accounting of the recognition of the hit, but the hit is going to be taken, regardless.  </p>
<p><i>Mark-to-Market accounting is necessary to relieve the system.</i></p>
<p>No, it really isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: HUH?</title>
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		<dc:creator>HUH?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Angry MBA

Mark-to-Market accounting is necessary to relieve the system. The bad stuff is flushed away to allow new more productive capital into the market. Keeping the bad stuff in the market only strains the productive economy.(Japan) Allowing banks to defer write downs only encourages hording, and keeps uncertainty in the market.

Do you really think the banks are going to allow themselves to &quot;take the hit&quot;? I thought banks were in the business of making money, not taking hits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Angry MBA</p>
<p>Mark-to-Market accounting is necessary to relieve the system. The bad stuff is flushed away to allow new more productive capital into the market. Keeping the bad stuff in the market only strains the productive economy.(Japan) Allowing banks to defer write downs only encourages hording, and keeps uncertainty in the market.</p>
<p>Do you really think the banks are going to allow themselves to &#8220;take the hit&#8221;? I thought banks were in the business of making money, not taking hits.</p>
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		<title>By: JZW</title>
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		<dc:creator>JZW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bears are right on the problem but wrong on the outcome. Well before the banks fail the Fed will simply buy the mortgages off the banks at par. If you can print your own money profits or losses are irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bears are right on the problem but wrong on the outcome. Well before the banks fail the Fed will simply buy the mortgages off the banks at par. If you can print your own money profits or losses are irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry MBA</title>
		<link>http://pragcap.com/meredith-whitney-prepare-for-a-dramatic-decline-in-housing/comment-page-1#comment-21670</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry MBA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 15:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;She said that she did not foresee people not paying their mortgages and spending the money on other nonsense instead. In my opinion it’s hard to blame her for that.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a fundamental mistake.  

What the superbears get wrong is that deleveraging can occur, and in fact is occurring now, via much of the debt is being charged off, modified, and discharged through bankruptcy.  

The decision early in the crisis to avoid mark-to-market accounting for bad mortgages was made precisely in order to allow these writedowns to occur gradually and in a more orderly fashion, deferring them to a later time when the lenders could take the hit to their balance sheets.  Bad private debt does not necessarily need to be paid with cash.  

Much of that debt isn&#039;t being paid, and will never be paid.  In fact, write offs are not an option but a necessity, because the destruction in asset value that occurred during the financial crisis literally destroyed much of the cash available to pay such debts.  &quot;Strategic defaults&quot; were inevitable, as borrowers began to realize that there is no point in servicing debt that could not be paid without destroying every other aspect of their lives.   

Anyone who understands the financial system should have seen this coming, as expecting all of this debt to actually be paid is the proverbial blood-from-a-turnip problem defined.  Anyone who believes that we can&#039;t fully recover until all of the debts have been paid by their borrowers simply doesn&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>She said that she did not foresee people not paying their mortgages and spending the money on other nonsense instead. In my opinion it’s hard to blame her for that.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a fundamental mistake.  </p>
<p>What the superbears get wrong is that deleveraging can occur, and in fact is occurring now, via much of the debt is being charged off, modified, and discharged through bankruptcy.  </p>
<p>The decision early in the crisis to avoid mark-to-market accounting for bad mortgages was made precisely in order to allow these writedowns to occur gradually and in a more orderly fashion, deferring them to a later time when the lenders could take the hit to their balance sheets.  Bad private debt does not necessarily need to be paid with cash.  </p>
<p>Much of that debt isn&#8217;t being paid, and will never be paid.  In fact, write offs are not an option but a necessity, because the destruction in asset value that occurred during the financial crisis literally destroyed much of the cash available to pay such debts.  &#8220;Strategic defaults&#8221; were inevitable, as borrowers began to realize that there is no point in servicing debt that could not be paid without destroying every other aspect of their lives.   </p>
<p>Anyone who understands the financial system should have seen this coming, as expecting all of this debt to actually be paid is the proverbial blood-from-a-turnip problem defined.  Anyone who believes that we can&#8217;t fully recover until all of the debts have been paid by their borrowers simply doesn&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: kingsquire</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingsquire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John K,

She has already admitted that she was wrong on the consumer discretionary call.  She said that she did not foresee people not paying their mortgages and spending the money on other nonsense instead.  In my opinion it&#039;s hard to blame her for that.  Or to blame someone for a bad call when the government and the TBTF banks change the playbook whenever they please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John K,</p>
<p>She has already admitted that she was wrong on the consumer discretionary call.  She said that she did not foresee people not paying their mortgages and spending the money on other nonsense instead.  In my opinion it&#8217;s hard to blame her for that.  Or to blame someone for a bad call when the government and the TBTF banks change the playbook whenever they please.</p>
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		<title>By: jrsun</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrsun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Kinnucan

Very well said</description>
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<p>Very well said</p>
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		<title>By: John Kinnucan</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Kinnucan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meredith here doubling down once again on her all-too-wrong calls of over a year now.  

Maybe for her new landlord&#039;s sake her predictions will finally come to pass.  

That would still not make her &quot;right,&quot; from an investment business perspective- it is way too late for that, since in this business being that early versus being plain wrong knows no difference- i.e., anybody actually investing for a living would most likely be out of business by now, from following her advice over the last more than twelve months.

Exhibit A here is consumer discretionary (see XRT, RTH, etc...) stocks, one of the very top-performing sectors over the last year, and only one for which Meredith predicted utter disaster about this time last year.

Predicting the future is very difficult, but that doesn&#039;t stop people from trying.

The onset of human hubris, on the other hand, as in when respected sector analysts start believing their own press, and begin fancying themselves
macroecomonic prophets, is all-too-predictable...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meredith here doubling down once again on her all-too-wrong calls of over a year now.  </p>
<p>Maybe for her new landlord&#8217;s sake her predictions will finally come to pass.  </p>
<p>That would still not make her &#8220;right,&#8221; from an investment business perspective- it is way too late for that, since in this business being that early versus being plain wrong knows no difference- i.e., anybody actually investing for a living would most likely be out of business by now, from following her advice over the last more than twelve months.</p>
<p>Exhibit A here is consumer discretionary (see XRT, RTH, etc&#8230;) stocks, one of the very top-performing sectors over the last year, and only one for which Meredith predicted utter disaster about this time last year.</p>
<p>Predicting the future is very difficult, but that doesn&#8217;t stop people from trying.</p>
<p>The onset of human hubris, on the other hand, as in when respected sector analysts start believing their own press, and begin fancying themselves<br />
macroecomonic prophets, is all-too-predictable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: F. Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>F. Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;what about people who don’t own a house, yet, because they knew it would be a bad investment in the bidding war… they’re are still a lot of us waiting for housing prices to FAIRLY come down and for the people who did all this to pay the price.&lt;/i&gt; P Ronan 

You would receive an equal distribution of new legal tender too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>what about people who don’t own a house, yet, because they knew it would be a bad investment in the bidding war… they’re are still a lot of us waiting for housing prices to FAIRLY come down and for the people who did all this to pay the price.</i> P Ronan </p>
<p>You would receive an equal distribution of new legal tender too.</p>
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